[victorious]

The irish national flying club has a 20 bird limit on all races which is fair this had to be done as some well known fanciers in northern ireland were sending 8o birds to some nationals against joe bloggs 2/4/6 birds i pity some fellow british fanciers trying to race against large numbers naming no names we all no who they are,and before any mentions quality which is bull as everyone has quality nowadays its just greed they want all the cream ,oh how i love to see them get beat by the small fancier, many of these fanciers even have dvds produced now but never mention on them how many they send, come on you mob flyers lets have an equal par.

[geordie1234]

Don't see what the prob is sending so many It's only one that wins the race etc no matter what every single pigeon is racing against each other whether it be 500 other pigeons or 5000.

The way things are with the sport aswell I don't think organisations can put limits on

[victorious]

geordie1234, on 15 January 2012 - 20:52 PM, said:

Don't see what the prob is sending so many It's only one that wins the race etc no matter what every single pigeon is racing against each other whether it be 500 other pigeons or 5000.

The way things are with the sport aswell I don't think organisations can put limits on

well george the infc has had this limit on for the last 5 years it was voted for by the members its here to stay its called a level playing field well nearly maybe some day youll relise that majorty rules they cant all be wrong.

[andy Burgess]

geordie1234, on 15 January 2012 - 20:52 PM, said:

Don't see what the prob is sending so many It's only one that wins the race etc no matter what every single pigeon is racing against each other whether it be 500 other pigeons or 5000.

The way things are with the sport aswell I don't think organisations can put limits on

would agree , my old club had one of the best sending 40 odd old birds and sometimes 80 youngsters ,was a pleasure to take a card with only 4 or so sent by me .

[geordie1234]

victorious, on 15 January 2012 - 20:58 PM, said:

well george the infc has had this limit on for the last 5 years it was voted for by the members its here to stay its called a level playing field well nearly maybe some day youll relise that majorty rules they cant all be wrong.

I gave my opinion on limits which is only my opinion maybe one day you will realise that because someone thinks different doesn't mean its wrong

[victorious]

what would the % be on the man sending 80 to the man sending 3 i know who my money would be on would you buy from the mob flyer or the small team man .

[geordie1234]

So if a guy sends 80 to the national gets 1st open can you take anything away from him for winning the nat? did that pigeon win because it had 79 loft mates in the race?

[victorious]

still naming no names i know of a fancier who had 280 old birds on his race sheet last year he races in a 12 member club needless to say he was section fancier of the year last year,hes a farmer by the way hed be a great boy to pucrchase from [NOT]

geordie1234, on 15 January 2012 - 21:09 PM, said:

So if a guy sends 80 to the national gets 1st open can you take anything away from him for winning the nat? did that pigeon win because it had 79 loft mates in the race?

[just ask me]

people moving into a better position just to race birds annoys me even more

[quackie]

dosent matter if ya send 1 or 100 you still have to get it the fittest bird wins on the day fact

[dal2]

Its a personnel choice???? I could build a loft for 200 but could not get them in correct order for the big race????

[geordie1234]

quackie, on 15 January 2012 - 21:13 PM, said:

dosent matter if ya send 1 or 100 you still have to get it the fittest bird wins on the day fact

Correct mate disny matter how many ye send more the merrier imo

[victorious]

NO NOT TAKING ANY THING AWAY FROM THE PIGEON IAM TALKING ABOUT FAIRNESS LEVEL PLAYING FIELD JUST MY OPINION .

quackie, on 15 January 2012 - 21:13 PM, said:

dosent matter if ya send 1 or 100 you still have to get it the fittest bird wins on the day fact

WHAT IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED FIT ONES THE ONLY FAIR RACES ARE ONE LOFT RACES AS EVERY MAN IS ON EQUAL PAR FACT.

[quackie]

you may as well say because a man pays 10 grand for a bird it will beat 1 that only cost £20 .oo

[JohnQuinn]

They done something similar in the SNFC in the early eighties, only 12 birds max, it was designed to stop Eddie Newcombe dominating the results.

Don't need to tell you, he just went on and won the Gold Cup and dominated the TOP of the result just the same. Because he is a fantastic pigeon man, no because he was sending a big team!

The problem is that the MAJORITY won't win anything, they become jealous of the guys who are winning and look for Reasons/Excuses why they are getting beat year in year out, the LAST conclusion they would EVER come to would be looking at THEMSELVES for the reason they canny win. They then band together with only one focus in mind , stop the Big Man winning and ruin his enjoyment as a pigeon man. JMO

[geordie1234]

JohnQuinn, on 15 January 2012 - 21:25 PM, said:

They done something similar in the SNFC in the early eighties, only 12 birds max, it was designed to stop Eddie Newcombe dominating the results.

Don't need to tell you, he just went on and won the Gold Cup and dominated the TOP of the result just the same. Because he is a fantastic pigeon man, no because he was sending a big team!

The problem is that the MAJORITY won't win anything, they become jealous of the guys who are winning and look for Reasons/Excuses why they are getting beat year in year out, the LAST conclusion they would EVER come to would be looking at THEMSELVES for the reason they canny win. They then band together with only one focus in mind , stop the Big Man winning and ruin his enjoyment as a pigeon man. JMO

THIS ^^^^^

[quackie]

JohnQuinn, on 15 January 2012 - 21:25 PM, said:

They done something similar in the SNFC in the early eighties, only 12 birds max, it was designed to stop Eddie Newcombe dominating the results.

Don't need to tell you, he just went on and won the Gold Cup and dominated the TOP of the result just the same. Because he is a fantastic pigeon man, no because he was sending a big team!

The problem is that the MAJORITY won't win anything, they become jealous of the guys who are winning and look for Reasons/Excuses why they are getting beat year in year out, the LAST conclusion they would EVER come to would be looking at THEMSELVES for the reason they canny win. They then band together with only one focus in mind , stop the Big Man winning and ruin his enjoyment as a pigeon man. JMO

well said mate no one is unbeatable no one just try harder the top men dont sit on there arses

they put the time and effort in try it sometime ya be amamzed

[victorious]

quackie, on 15 January 2012 - 21:28 PM, said:

well said mate no one is unbeatable no one just try harder the top men dont sit on there arses

they put the time and effort in try it sometime ya be amamzed

IF I PUT ANY MORE TIME AND EFFORT INTO THEM I MITE AS WELL MOVE ME BED OUT INTO THE LOFT LOL

[WulDon]

regardless of numbers sent by a fancier once liberated every pigeon is an individual in the sky, only the best and the fittest come to the front!

[dwh]

victorious, on 15 January 2012 - 20:48 PM, said:

The irish national flying club has a 20 bird limit on all races which is fair this had to be done as some well known fanciers in northern ireland were sending 8o birds to some nationals against joe bloggs 2/4/6 birds i pity some fellow british fanciers trying to race against large numbers naming no names we all no who they are,and before any mentions quality which is bull as everyone has quality nowadays its just greed they want all the cream ,oh how i love to see them get beat by the small fancier, many of these fanciers even have dvds produced now but never mention on them how many they send, come on you mob flyers lets have an equal par.

if they can afford to send 80 against my 6 why not we have this problem in our club every week especially ybs
yes we all have quality and yes they are increasing their chances by sending larger teams
but it costing them 4x the amount to send them
so it takes them 4x longer to recoup there loses so if i win i'm racing fer nowt for 4 weeks
happy times
thats if we win
jmo folks