[demolition man]

who would you go to for distance birds

[alec guinness]

demolition man, on 5 January 2012 - 20:09 PM, said:

who would you go to for distance birds

find a local distance fanciers who does well with not keeping too many birds and scores regularly from these long hauls. imo that would be a good start.

[paddymac]

If possible I would look to a local fancier that is doing well at the distance flying into your locality and see if you could purchase a few.

[lanarkshire lad]

Dont think you need to stay local theres no hard and fast rules in the pigeon game thats for sure.The theories will be hit on the head when the racing starts and by the way i see that the vandenabeeles for example which are a belgian middle distance family can be brought into this country and win just about everything straight away up to 500miles no need for this acclimatisation nonesense with they pigeons or the camphius jannsens or vanhee or lefebre dhaenen or verheye they all won straight away. so why cant the belgian long distance strains win at 500mile plus to say that you need to bring local pigeons in disnae make sense to me theres good and bad pigeons everywhere it getting the good ones thats the hard part. JMO

[adam owen]

being where you are i would go to top welsh people as its same kind of racing (hard)and they not mob flyers like the english

[OLDYELLOW]

adam owen, on 5 January 2012 - 21:33 PM, said:

being where you are i would go to top welsh people as its same kind of racing (hard)and they not mob flyers like the english

Most my club members fly around 10 birds a week I find the phrase English and mob flyers insulting to say the least , at maximum I race 36 young birds and 18 pair of old birds at full capacity , think have 12 pair for next year 24 birds

[dal2]

OLDYELLOW, on 5 January 2012 - 20:45 PM, said:

Most my club members fly around 10 birds a week I find the phrase English and mob flyers insulting to say the least , at maximum I race 36 young birds and 18 pair of old birds at full capacity , think have 12 pair for next year 24 birds

Dinny think he was talkin aboot you mate! Some nat entries frae top english fliers can be a bit ott dont you think? 50s and 60s?

[lanarkshire lad]

adam owen, on 5 January 2012 - 21:33 PM, said:

being where you are i would go to top welsh people as its same kind of racing (hard)and they not mob flyers like the english

It disnae matter how many you keep or send to 500mile its only the quality ones that will do the job.

[just ask me]

dal2, on 5 January 2012 - 21:48 PM, said:

Dinny think he was talkin aboot you mate! Some nat entries frae top english fliers can be a bit ott dont you think? 50s and 60s?

big entries every where some are noe sending well over the 100

[OLDYELLOW]

dal2, on 5 January 2012 - 21:48 PM, said:

Dinny think he was talkin aboot you mate! Some nat entries frae top english fliers can be a bit ott dont you think? 50s and 60s?

You get big senders in every corner of UK not just England , only difference is you could say in an argument the terrain in Wales similar to Scotland so a good test over similar terrain , I welcome these flyers as these keep my overall costs down supplying many birds for only a handful of prizes only ever one winner of a race why keep a loft of also flown's beaten by loft mate and so on

[dal2]

just ask me, on 5 January 2012 - 20:51 PM, said:

big entries every where some are noe sending well over the 100

My god!!! Can ye imagine get that special doo wae yer wages on in perfect fettle and in right feather and nest wae all them tae look after?????????????????????

[OLDYELLOW]

lanarkshire lad, on 5 January 2012 - 21:51 PM, said:

It disnae matter how many you keep or send to 500mile its only the quality ones that will do the job.

[adam owen]

thats wat im saying in nfc people send 60 70 100 plus birds not aimed at you oldyellow just saying in england theres big teams being sent not having a go at anyone its the way it is thease days theres alot more at steak in england than here in wales may be thats why people send more to give them more chances

quality not quantaty in my eyes

[OLDYELLOW]

adam owen, on 5 January 2012 - 21:55 PM, said:

thats wat im saying in nfc people send 60 70 100 plus birds not aimed at you oldyellow just saying in england theres big teams being sent not having a go at anyone its the way it is thease days theres alot more at steak in england than here in wales may be thats why people send more to give them more chances

quality not quantaty in my eyes

If the national clubs weren't such a hassle and a expense I'd gladly send around 12 at a time maximum no need for numbers unless you don't know what you have or how to judge a birds ability or fitness , most send numbers to create a favourable drag I'd rather have a leader than loads of followers The old adage is if you throw enough pennys at the hole yer bound to get a few in

[victorious]

demolition man, on 5 January 2012 - 21:09 PM, said:

who would you go to for distance birds

[adam owen]

i agree with you there mate . back to bernys question... theres a few top men around lee buddle geoff cooper mike mitchel plus many good birds in scotland padfeilds john ludlam ja rake in wales you could go on mike mitchel and halstead fly only small teams with great effect

[eastcoaster]

i think it`s a wee bit unfair to have a go at the big senders they pay the feed bill an example was the great eddie newcombe used to send 30/40 to the nat they brought a 12 bird limit in and he thrashed the lot of us lol but know what you getting at .

[victorious]

no one in my country anyway cause they always keep the good ones believe me, of course they will give you the ones they dont want. probably louella corbetts etc no point in them keeping the good ones there all for sale ,most of the old fanciers were you would have got a good one are long dead.

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

victorious, on 5 January 2012 - 22:12 PM, said:

no one in my country anyway cause they always keep the good ones believe me, of course they will give you the ones they dont want. probably louella corbetts etc no point in them keeping the good ones there all for sale ,most of the old fanciers were you would have got a good one are long dead.

Thats a bit unfair

[adam owen]

look at nfc tarbes last year 1st open 740miles sending one bird 2nd open 31 birds 600 (i think) not having a go just admire small team lofts jhon halstead in my eyes is prob one of the best all round flyers in the uk does well at all distances with a few cocks